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On Thursday 17th May 2011 a delegation of Greek chemtrails activists from Volos , Aigina and Athens visited the chairman of the Greek parliament's environmental committee Mr. Kostas Kartalis.

 

 
Kostas Kartalis
This had been made possible by the energy of the Volos activists and the fact that this Greek city is in the electorate of Mr. Kartalis so that he has immediate practical reasons for demonstrating interest. He had been identified as the man who signed the de facto moratorium on implementation of geoengineering proposals that had been signed by 193 states at the UN Convention on Biodiversity at Nagoya last October.
Similar inquiries in Belgium earlier this year identified the Flemish Environment Minister Joke Schauvliege as Mr. Kartalis' Belgian counterpart, and this had led to a meeting between Mrs Schauvliege and chemtrail activist and former Flemish mayor Peter Vereecke at which the Minister had admitted "off the record" that the aerial spraying seen in the skies over Belgium (and everywhere else) is "geoengineering" ("solar radiation management") in action.  However, it did not prove possible to get Mrs. Schauvliege to confirm this admission "on the record".
Joke Schauvliege

The approach we decided to adopt with Mr. Kartalis was to congratulate him for having signed the de facto moratorium and asking him his reasons for doing so. But he didn't respond to this opening, preferring to insist that we tell him things, and allow him to ask the questions. So it was over to our scientific representative, who presented the chemtrails activists' case, and received the standard inquiries from Mr. Kartalis on what evidence we have for our assertions. When I intervened to say that it was because of this response that I had wished that we ask HIM the questions on his reasons for signing the moratorium. He replied that he had not signed, but that some unnamed official had signed. I therefore said that the signature was on behalf of the Greek government, and therefore reflected Greek government policy. He said that he thought the moratorium probably involved different types of agricultural spraying, but we all thought that this response could not be accepted as being in any way credible, as this was not what is called geoengineering.  The discussion moved on to the response that chemtrails activists had received from the government of Cyprus , where certain undertakings had been secured to carry out tests to confirm or refute chemtrail activists' allegations. Mr. Kartalis said that the Cypriot Defense Minister was "exposed" if he agreed to take seriously any allegations that Cyprus was not in control of its airspace.  But as he learned more details of the Cypriot response, and as the discussion went on to HAARP, he said that the interpretation that aerosol spraying might serve the purpose of increasing the conductivity of the atmosphere seemed less implausible to him.  He said finally that he did not rule out "the negative interpretation" and agreed to investigate the subject. This was a very vague assurance but given that the discussion did not seem to have much hope of achieving more, it ended, and the delegation later agreed that we would treat this as a promise to which Mr. Kartalis would be held.

There was a difference of opinion in the delegation as to whether Mr. Kartalis was sincerely under-informed or whether he was dissembling. That he was dissembling was the majority view. Nevertheless, he has given an undertaking of sorts, and one must see what can be done with it, at the same time not expecting too much of conventional politicians.  Whether any attempt should be made to try to turn chemtrails into a voting issue in his electorate is something for the people of Volos to think about.  

Comment from Peter Vereecke

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